tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post4654672986732124026..comments2024-01-05T05:46:30.140-08:00Comments on Angie's Desk: August Stuff and Some LinksAngiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-33300143395665547252011-09-03T01:01:34.973-07:002011-09-03T01:01:34.973-07:00Charles -- I'm glad I have a wife so I don'...Charles -- <i>I'm glad I have a wife so I don't have to approach any women anymore and risk being accused of mansplaining.</i><br /><br />The only way you could be accused of mansplaining in that situation would be if, when a woman turned you down for whatever you proposed, you proceeded to explain to her exactly why she was wrong and stupid for doing so, because after all she's not that hot anyway and who does she think she is to be saying no to you, so she must be one stupid bitch. Honestly, I can't imagine you being that agressively butthurt-nasty to anyone, ever.<br /><br /><i>I was told a couple of times by women that they were just trying to play a little hard to get.</i><br /><br />It's sad as well as frustrating that there are still women who do that. It comes from the traditional belief that a woman who says yes right away is a desperate loser or a cheap skank, though, and a lot of women are still afraid that a man won't value what comes too easily. Women who know what they want and go after it, or even just say yes to it as soon as it shows up, often experience negative reactions. Which is stupid, but there you go -- a lot about traditional male/female interactions is stupid. :/<br /><br />I'm sure Lana's very glad she has you too, for all sorts of reasons. :)<br /><br />Kara -- Thanks! :D Actually it just means that these seven or so stories I have circulating just keep getting rejected [cough] but at least I'm persistent, right? [grin]<br /><br /><i>I feel so lightened of spirit whenever another woman articulates these obstacles we have to navigate everyday, but are often left unacknowledged.</i><br /><br />I feel the same way. I read that and thought, "Yes, exactly, that's IT!" And the link between mansplaining and street harassment and outright rape and everything else -- it all tracing back to men who've been socialized to feel entitled to have whatever they want from a woman, from attention to admiration to sex, makes perfect sense. It's like the unified field theory of female oppression. [wry smile]<br /><br />Suzan -- I read that post of Kris's and yeah, it's pretty amazing how so many of the common weaknesses in women also apply to writers. If you think about it, though, it makes sense. Women have those hang-ups because until recently, we've been kept dependent and powerless in society. Writers, under the traditional publishing model, have also been kept dependent and powerless. So it's not really surprising that a lot of the same problematic beliefs and behaviors would appear in both. It was a very cool observation on her part.<br /><br />AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-39069010355826373462011-09-02T21:42:22.286-07:002011-09-02T21:42:22.286-07:00Angie, you still made the Koala happy. That's...Angie, you still made the Koala happy. That's a good thing!<br /><br />This must be the week for ladies getting fed up. Kristine Rusch had a great essay about how all writers are treated like women in our society for these very same reasons. http://kriswrites.com/2011/08/31/the-business-rusch-unexpected-gold-in-self-help-books/<br /><br />Years ago, some guy was harrassing every woman in the subway car I was in, asking them to go out with him. It was freaky, the scared body language, the shying away. And I do understand the fear. When he got to me, I looked him in the eye and said no in a rather loud voice. The guy shut up went to a seat by himself and didn't bug anyone else. The really weird part was the nasty lookd I got from the other women.Suzan Hardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04600258874634909988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-33460807925262914182011-09-02T19:34:14.451-07:002011-09-02T19:34:14.451-07:00You know your submission rate rocks, right?
Thank...You know your submission rate rocks, right?<br /><br />Thanks for the link to Sady's blog. It's a little sad that this is the case, but I feel so lightened of spirit whenever another woman articulates these obstacles we have to navigate everyday, but are often left unacknowledged.<br /><br />Also, bright ending point!Karanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-27735628880922973482011-09-02T05:50:10.247-07:002011-09-02T05:50:10.247-07:00I like the armor one you liked too. I've never...I like the armor one you liked too. I've never heard of mansplaining. Never observed it, but then I'm a man so I guess I wouldn't. I'm glad I have a wife so I don't have to approach any women anymore and risk being accused of mansplaining. Actually, I almost never had the courage to approach women anyway, and at the first sign of disinterest I was gone. I was told a couple of times by women that they were just trying to play a little hard to get. But I never wanted to force even a moment of my attention on someone who didn't want it. It certainly would have embarrassed me.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.com