tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post6893186407207210268..comments2024-01-05T05:46:30.140-08:00Comments on Angie's Desk: What do You Mean You Want to Vote?Angiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-53074180546187922522008-10-16T17:27:00.000-07:002008-10-16T17:27:00.000-07:00Shauna -- a couple of weeks ago, opposition to Pro...Shauna -- a couple of weeks ago, opposition to Prop. 8 was a few points ahead, which was good, yes. But then the groups in favor started running those disgusting commercials, and spreading lies about how Prop. 8 would force gay marriage to be "taught" in schools, and would mean opponents of gay marriage would face lawsuits if they said anything against it, etc., and the polls swung the other way. It's still only by a few points, but that's still enough for a win.<BR/><BR/>The vote tends to go to the side which spends the most money, unfortunately, whether you're talking about candidates or propositions. The pro-8 faction has had money pouring into California from conservative groups all over the country. They've been outspending us, and that's the bottom line. :(<BR/><BR/><I>A sample of the supposed food stamps is given, showing Obama's head superimposed on a drawing of a donkey and surrounded by a watermelon, ribs, and fried chicken. The president of the group defended her action by saying she did it in retaliation for an oblique remark made by Obama over the summer that suggested he wasn't white.</I><BR/><BR/>Sooo... because he said he's not white (which shouldn't be news to anyone) that makes it okay to publish racist images? Good grief, what an idiot.<BR/><BR/>AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-8410455824603611532008-10-16T17:20:00.000-07:002008-10-16T17:20:00.000-07:00Gosh, last time I'd heard, Prop 8 was overwhelming...Gosh, last time I'd heard, Prop 8 was overwhelmingly opposed! When did that turnaround happen? I've already voted; hope my vote against helps.<BR/><BR/>A front page story in this morning's Inland Empire's <EM>Press-Enterprise</EM> was about a Republican group's newsletter in which the group president said that if Obama is elected, his picture will appear on food stamps. A sample of the supposed food stamps is given, showing Obama's head superimposed on a drawing of a donkey and surrounded by a watermelon, ribs, and fried chicken. The president of the group defended her action by saying she did it in retaliation for an oblique remark made by Obama over the summer that suggested he wasn't white. [No, that does not make sense to me, either.)<BR/><BR/>For the full story, as well as some other examples of outrageous Republican campaigning, see http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_buck16.3d67d4a.html .Shauna Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03871768714926149114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-29102686690084926572008-10-14T14:12:00.000-07:002008-10-14T14:12:00.000-07:00WW -- my husband and I are voting absentee this ye...WW -- my husband and I are voting absentee this year because we'll be on a cruise through November 5. I <I>hope</I> they get counted. :/ I'm not so worried about California going Republican in the presidential race, but on a different issue, the religious right and other conservative types are pouring money into the state from all over the country to push Prop. 8, which will render gay marriage illegal again and nullify the marriages of all the gay couples who've wed in the last few months. :( The vote usually goes to the side with the most money, and Prop. 8 is currently polling to win by a few points, which is a terrible thing. I want to be especially sure our votes are counted for <I>that,</I> where a small number of votes can make a difference.<BR/><BR/>Ello -- I'm surprised to hear that, considering how overwhelmingly white the party organizers are. There were hardly any brown people at the convention, for example. :/ That's sort of disturbing.<BR/><BR/>But yes, the vote-jiggering <I>is</I> shocking. It should be a major scandal, and I don't know why it's not. [scowl]<BR/><BR/>AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-41559990292521667782008-10-14T13:59:00.000-07:002008-10-14T13:59:00.000-07:00You know I have heard of this before but it is jus...You know I have heard of this before but it is just shocking to know it still happens. This election is so pivotal and I am on pins and needles. I admit that I'm scared. I want change but I'm not sure the rest of the country is ready for it. And you would be surprised how many minorities are actually republicans!Ello - Ellen Ohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18311917335471167591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-70666234715896403482008-10-12T18:53:00.000-07:002008-10-12T18:53:00.000-07:00That is so wrong how the Republicans in particular...That is so wrong how the Republicans in particular have jiggered the voting. We all know that the 2000 election shouldn't have been won by W, because the US Supreme Court doesn't have the right to make decisions about state votes. Or that the Republicans have been gerrymandering to a faretheewell for the last decade and bragging about it. I guarantee that half the population doesn't even know what gerrymandering IS, much less how it affects their voting.<BR/><BR/>Jeez, I really hate election years. They just piss me off. And I always vote absentee and wonder, cynically, if the vote will actually be counted, so I always drop it off at the polls on election day anyhow (which is okay where I live; but for someone not living in Maine it might not.)writtenwyrddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02280711822302493122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-22792487522448556422008-10-11T14:14:00.000-07:002008-10-11T14:14:00.000-07:00Laughingwolf -- it is criminal, and I'd love to se...Laughingwolf -- it <I>is</I> criminal, and I'd <I>love</I> to see law enforcement get involved. I guess when you're a high-level party hack, though, not all the laws apply. [eyeroll] Hey, where have we heard that before, hmm?<BR/><BR/>AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-26797541330466333972008-10-11T12:04:00.000-07:002008-10-11T12:04:00.000-07:00more than just disgusting, angie... it's CRIMINAL!...more than just disgusting, angie... it's CRIMINAL! grrrrrrrrrr<BR/><BR/>where the hell is law enforcement?laughingwolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873675614347328116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-67452939400764317762008-10-10T12:34:00.000-07:002008-10-10T12:34:00.000-07:00SS -- I keep running into stuff like this and I'm ...SS -- I keep running into stuff like this and I'm continuously boggled. I mean, I'd never <I>think</I> of things like this. Who does? Who sits down and thinks, "Well, this is illegal/unethical, but it just might help us win!" and decides that's a good idea? Just from a pragmatic point of view, this sort of thing tends to get out and then your whole party gets sprayed with sewage.<BR/><BR/>It's just insane. And I have to wonder how many of the candidates (on either side, because I know the Democrats have done their share of shady campaigning too -- they're just not the ones who <I>need</I> to do it right now) know or approve of this stuff. It's one thing for some party rat whose name isn't known by 99.9% of the American populace to do this sort of thing; unless they actually get arrested, they're probably okay even if they get called out on it. But the politicians trying to get elected have to worry about their reputations; do they approve of what their party machines do to win? :(<BR/><BR/>AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-24155116869262774892008-10-10T08:44:00.000-07:002008-10-10T08:44:00.000-07:00I live in Ohio. A few times ago, when I voted, it ...I live in Ohio. A few times ago, when I voted, it was CRAZY. I wrote about it on my blog, somewhere. And yes, it pisses me off.Spy Scribblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14299551957327543491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-20193473178357362282008-10-10T01:20:00.000-07:002008-10-10T01:20:00.000-07:00Steve -- hey, whatever works, right? :DIn a count...Steve -- hey, whatever works, right? :D<BR/><BR/>In a country with like three hundred million people and only two viable parties, it's harder to make the same numbers argument here. [wry smile] Still, voting because it pisses off the people who disagree with you, because they don't <I>want</I> you to vote and you can do an In Your Face at them, can still work. It's pretty clear the Republicans don't want me to vote, and even if I hadn't been planning to already, that's a pretty good reason to do it.<BR/><BR/>AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-8599235964736974032008-10-09T23:37:00.000-07:002008-10-09T23:37:00.000-07:00The other day the Tiny Dynamo pulled that 'why bot...The other day the Tiny Dynamo pulled that 'why bother to vote, they're all jerks' crap on me. I pointed out that, in a country of four million people with viable third parties, she has a real chance to make her voice heard. <BR/><BR/>If nothing else, you can pick the biggest bunch of lying, cheating, stealing a$$holes and vote against them!Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.com