tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post9074662124847451102..comments2024-01-05T05:46:30.140-08:00Comments on Angie's Desk: The Outer AllianceAngiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-47801370119678035022009-09-14T15:15:18.591-07:002009-09-14T15:15:18.591-07:00Steve -- seriously, I don't either. I mean, i...Steve -- seriously, I don't either. I mean, it's one thing to be against rape or arson or theft or murder or littering or <i>something</i> that affects other people and causes demonstrable harm. But how the heck is it anyone's business how two or more consenting adults have sex?<br /><br />It's like the whole "defense of marriage" campaign against letting gays and lesbians marry one another -- it makes no sense at all. My husband and I have been married for thirteen years, and the forty thousand gay couples who married here in California for those months when it was legal, to say nothing of the hordes of other gay couples who've married and are still marrying in states and countries where it's legal, have had absolutely no effect on my marriage. My "traditional" marriage doesn't <i>need</i> to be protected from gay marriage, and anyone who thinks it does is crazed. [sigh]<br /><br />AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-11803702196352027012009-09-14T15:07:59.190-07:002009-09-14T15:07:59.190-07:00I just. Don't. Get. Homophobia.
More specifi...I just. Don't. Get. Homophobia. <br /><br />More specifically, I don't get that human impulse to try to control behaviour in others that has no bearing whatsoever on their own lives. <br /><br />That is one room in the human heart that continues to baffle me...Steve Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17561234111786788616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-21485335189745654802009-09-14T11:41:33.691-07:002009-09-14T11:41:33.691-07:00Tacithydra -- links are fine. :) In fact, I cros...Tacithydra -- links are fine. :) In fact, I cross-post everything here to <a href="http://angelabenedetti.livejournal.com/37599.html" rel="nofollow">my LiveJournal</a> and <a href="http://www.angiebenedetti.com/blog/2009/09/14/the-outer-alliance/" rel="nofollow">my WordPress blog</a>; feel free to add those as well if you like. My WordPress audience rarely comments, but there's been some discussion on the LJ.<br /><br />Charles -- the gentleman is nothing if not consistent. If you click through to the Outer Alliance discussion and read his response in the comments, and also click through from there to the discussion and comments on the <a href="http://crossedgenres.com/blog/sff-market-rejects-our-lgbtq-ad/" rel="nofollow">Crossed Genres page</a> he's very up-front about where he's coming from.<br /><br />In addition to being anti-queer, he's also anti-divorce and anti-contraception, and has stated that FFO has only ever accepted one story which mentions divorce, and in that one the divorced characters were shown in a negative light. Based on that, I'm guessing that a story showing gay people as miserable and misguided might be accepted, but a story showing a gay character (or one who's divorced, or married characters who choose to have sex but not children) as happy and living a fulfilling life would be rejected.<br /><br />All this would be great for people to know before they submit, but there's nothing in the guidelines about Mr. Freivald's views or how they affect FFO's editorial policy. He's stated that he'd rather not have that sort of information in FFO's guidelines, that he'd rather people send him stories so he can just reject the ones he doesn't care for. Sending out stories and getting rejections back is certainly part of being a writer, but it's not one of the more pleasant parts and I'm just as happy to have this kind of information so I can save myself the frustration of hoping where there's actually no hope.<br /><br />And that's completely separate from my decision about whether or not I want to support a business whose owner holds these kinds of views, although that's a significant issue as well.<br /><br />Oh, and he states himself that it's not the artwork he objected to, and that if the ad had been the same but without the "LGBTQ" label, he'd have accepted it. So it's not actually any suggestiveness in the artwork which was the issue, but rather the gay label.<br /><br />AngieAngiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920578701763415331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1847902007209931042.post-57650255375186058702009-09-14T07:51:21.145-07:002009-09-14T07:51:21.145-07:00The ad doesn't seem offensive to me, but I do ...The ad doesn't seem offensive to me, but I do think there is some sexual suggestiveness about it. I'd have to know more about what other types of ads have been or have not been rejected before I could decide on what attitude underlay the rejection.Charles Gramlichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052592247572253641noreply@blogger.com